Following is a very typical
example of the new prophecies that are coming out of the new movement. Take note of the
"Change...change...change! Your ways are old ways, your thoughts are old thoughts,
your prayers are old prayers, your cries are old cries, your worship is old worship, your
way of doing church is an old way of doing
church. ...Let Me
church. ...Let Me change you...let Me change
you inside and out. Let go of yourself! Let me have you! I don't want a little bit at a
time, I want all of you, NOW! Desire change! Desire it because it is what I am doing in
you! Hunger and thirst for my changing in you. You must change! I cannot equip you unless
(Barry C. Linville, the 'New Wine'Vineyard Bulletin Board)
Now, take a moment to read from God's word, the Bible, and as you do, compare the
whole attitude, manner, and message. Is this really the same voice as that of the new
The LORD is my shepherd, I shall not want. He makes me lie down in green
pastures; He leads me beside quiet waters. He restores my soul. Ps 23:1-3
..with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. The
Lord ...is patient... 2Pet 3:8-9
Do not associate with those who are given to change... Pr 24:21
For I, the LORD, do not change... Mal 3:6
...the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation, or shifting shadow. Jms
Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today, yes and forever... Heb 13:8-9
Forever, O LORD, Thy word is settled in heaven. Ps 119:89
The counsel of the LORD stands forever, the plans of His heart from generation to
generation... Ps 33:11
The word of the Lord abides forever. And this is the word which was preached to
you. 1Pet 1:24-25
As for you, let that abide in you which you heard from the beginning. If what you
heard from the beginning abides in you, you also will abide in the Son and in the Father. 1Jn
I hope you can see the inconsistency between these two voices; the attitude,
the manner, and the message are completely at odds
APPENDIX A: Regarding the ''prophecies'' themselves:
Perhaps you have already read some of the new prophecies without even realizing it,
like in Rick Joyner's popular book, ''The Final Quest.'' If so, I would encourage
you to take a second, hard look at them.
The prophecies written by these new prophets are unlike the Bible. They are
titillating- extremely persuasive, sensual, and seductive in nature,
Bringing to mind 1Tim 4:1 ''in the latter times some shall depart from the faith,
giving heed to seducing spirits.'' There are important clues that point to a different
author than the God of the Bible.
The prophecies, unlike God's word, are filled with contradictions. The personal
thoughts of each of the 'prophets' are easy to discern and each of them are developing
their own followings, as people pick and choose which prophets they prefer - this is
The prophecies do, however, contain consistencies and a unified overall message which
I'd like to point out.
The prophecies are secretive and vague, in
contrast to the Bible's openness and forthrightness.
The speaker hints at his plans in figurative language but does not openly disclose
When one examines them carefully, these hints are often worded in such a way that they
could actually mean the very opposite of what you would first assume.
For example, let's
look at a prophecy given by Cindy Jacobs to Europe, called ''One More Chance'':
And the Lord would say I'm renewing ancient
covenants. I'm calling together ancient kingdoms. I'm the ancient of days. I'm doing a new
thing in Europe... I'm calling back to ancient times when I stirred my people to take
Jerusalem I'm calling out my warriors and my war horses forth.
Think carefully about this prophecy.
What were the 'ancient covenants' of Europe? Did you assume Christianity? Why? Europe
was the ancient seedbed of pagan religions like Wicca, druidism, and the ancient Celtic
which are making a strong comeback.
Who was ''stirred to take Jerusalem''? This could speak of the Roman destruction
in A.D. 70, or the Roman Catholic crusades.
As we have seen, Roman Catholicism is making a strong bid to become the global 'church'
Do you say, 'but he says he's the Lord, the ancient of days!' Don't you know ''the
devil... is a liar, and the father of lies'' (Jn 8:44) ? Furthermore, he can
legitimately call himself the ''God'' or lord - of this world (2Cor 4:4, 1Jn 5:19).
The prophecies contain the marks of gnosticism- a secretive, highly symbolic mysticism
where one works to 'attain to' a 'higher wisdom.' Gnostic symbols well-known since ancient
times are used, such as Rick Joyner's allegorical ''mountain'' which he had to climb to
attain to 'higher spiritual levels' of the 'revelation of God.'
The Holy Spirit constantly speaks on His own initiative, portraying Himself as wine,
and saying He longs to make us ''drunk'' with Himself.
Statements that sound like Bible verses are made but when you look them up, you find
they've been cleverly misquoted or misapplied. God does not misuse His own word.
Satan, however, has been known to misuse God's word to tempt (Mt 4:6).
In a prophecy titled ''Behold I am Doing a New Thing,'' Marc Dupont has God saying,
''Go I say, go! Go to the upper rooms and the roof tops. Go to the high places with a
view. Go and seek me.''
God has no need for his people to go up to high places to seek Him! Jesus made it clear
that a person's physical location has nothing to do with his worship of God; ''the true
worshipers shall worship the Father in spirit and truth,'' (Jn 4:21-23)
In the Bible, the 'high places' were places of demon worship (Num 33:52; Num 22:41; 1
Kings 14:23-24; 1KI 13:33-34; Jer 32:35; Ps 78:58-59).
Jesus was taken by the devil to the pinnacle of the temple and to a very high mountain,
to be tempted (Mt 4:1,8).
In Carol Arnott's 'Sword' prophecy, 'God' says he needs to
''chasten, but not with anger... I am a God full of mercy but I am serious as the time
Time is never short with God, He is in absolute, sovereign control of the timing of all
things! And, He is patient beyond our understanding; ''with the Lord one day is as a
thousand years, and a thousand years as one day,'' (2Pet 3:8). Time simply is not an issue
But, time is short for someone else: ''Woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil
has come down to you, having great wrath, knowing that he has only a short time.'' (Rev
In Marc Dupont's ''New Thing'' prophecy, God says,
''Do not doubt My love for you. Neither doubt My love for the lost and the hurting. And
neither doubt that I am who I say I am.''
The believer is warned not to question or doubt it is really God speaking, whereas the
Bible commands us to ''test the spirits,'' 1Jn 4:1. This demand should actually
fill us with doubt!
The believer's relationship to Jesus is symbolized in these prophecies as a sexual
relationship, to the point where it is just lewd. Jesus wants to ''have a love affair''
with you. He is a seducer instead of Lord and God. The Jesus of the scriptures does not
seduce. We do, however, read of seduction in connection with demons and also false
prophets (1Tim 4:1, KJV; Dt 13:5).
Carol Arnott (Airport Church Toronto) claims God Himself was speaking through her
when she said,
''The ways you have been using My weapons, the methods that you have been using in
the past, you are to throw them away because I am giving you My sword now [sic.] and the
old ways of doing things will not do. The old methods will not be acceptable to Me anymore
because I am doing a new thing.''
The old weapons God gave us are ''the full armor of God, that we may be able to resist
in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm'' (Eph 6:13-18). But now, we no
longer need to ''gird our loins with truth,'' put on the ''breastplate of righteousness,''
or ''shod our feet with the preparation of the gospel'' because God is ''doing a New
Thing''? ''The shield of faith'' and ''the helmet of salvation'' ''will no longer do''?
We are to throw away the ''old'' sword - ''the sword of the Spirit, which is the
word of God''?
We come again to the crux of the matter! Don't doubt it- this is what it's all about.
The spirit of this movement desperately wants to separate us from the word of God!
No, we will not throw away what God has told us to hold fast, even if ''an angel from
heaven should preach'' that we should (Gal 1:8).
These prophecies have the kind of urgency a salesman uses to hurry someone into a
bad deal before they can think it over- ''Do not doubt... allow me to impart my
essence in you, NOW!'' demands the spirit of ''Impartation.''
Fear, guilt, and flattery
(Ro 16:18, 1Th 2:5, Jude 16) are used to pressure, coerce, and manipulate.
The grace and loving patience of God that the Bible communicates is absent.
The church and the people of God are described again and again as ''filthy'' when God's
word declares us as cleansed in Christ (Eph 5:26).
Sensual hints of promises are implied as rewards for obeying demands that go
against God's instructions to us in His written word.
Rewards alluringly offered to those who will obey the prophecy usually do not even have
any definite meaning, like, ''you will know me in a way you have never known before.'' If
that doesn't happen, who are you going to sue and what charges would you be able to bring?
Can't you hear a certain someone laughing in derision at your easily bought compliance on
Often times things are promised as rewards that the Bible says we already possess as
believers, like, ''I will clothe you in pure garments.'' Gal 3:27 says, ''For all
of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.'' This is kind
of like someone stealing your wallet then offering your own money back to you to do their
Other times they tempt us to be unfaithful to our God, like, ''Be hungry for Me and the
food I have prepared for you.'' In Jn 6:35, ''Jesus said to them, 'I am the bread
of life; he who comes to Me shall not hunger.'''
And, finally, they feed sinful desires to have secret knowledge and significance above
others, like, those who ''follow Me into the deeper things... shall see My glory visited
upon them.'' Gal 6:3 warns us, ''if anyone thinks he is something when he is nothing, he
Scriptures about the wicked
are applied to the church and believers, in an accusatory way, to coerce the reader into
Take, for example, these words in a prophecy called ''Repent!'' by Doug Fortune:
''O, that you would acknowledge your fallen condition before Me... O, that you would
cry out for My mercy! For I desire to pour out My mercy upon you, but to a people that are
unrepentant and satisfied in their religion I will not bring mercy, but judgment. Repent,
My people, and turn.''
The god of this prophecy clearly talks to ''My people'' yet they are presented as in a
fallen condition, unworthy of His mercy, and in danger of judgment. Jesus said, ''Truly,
truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life,
and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.'' Jn 5:24.
''There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus,'' Ro
The God of the Bible sees us completely in Christ. A believer may backslide, but it
is not possible for him to return to a ''fallen condition.''
God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even
when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you
have been saved), and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly
places, in Christ Jesus... Eph 2:4-6
...in Him you have been made complete. Col 2:10
And, what must they 'repent' of? Being 'satisfied in their religion? What is this
vague accusation supposed to mean? Being satisfied with the word of God, perhaps?
The one who accuses us of being unclean and unacceptable is a thief who is trying to
rob us of what Christ has already given to us, and ''the thief comes only to steal, and
kill, and destroy'' Jn 10:10.
This is not our God but the accuser (Rev 12:10). Do not trust him. He has an agenda,
and though he is skillfull and persuasive, this agenda is not for our or the church's
Compare to the voice of the Scriptures.
Notice the general tone of the scriptures,
the lovingkindness, forgiveness and gentleness of our God, and notice that He always
speaks of our cleansing and fulness in Christ in past tense- it has happened. It is a
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every
spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, just as He chose us in Him before the
foundation of the world... to the praise of the glory of His grace, which He freely
bestowed on us in the Beloved. In Him we have redemption through His blood, the
forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace, which He lavished
upon us. Eph 1:3-8
god is not
This brings us to a highly important
difference between these prophecies and the scriptures:
The god of these prophecies has a plan but he cannot accomplish it without our efforts
He is not all-powerful. He is not in control. He is working hard with promises and
threats because he has to convince us to do what he wants done; he cannot do it himself
This can flatter a believer into a false sense of importance; ''God needs me!'' but the
God of the Bible is not like this.
Many of todays TV teachers have made us to believe, "I hear them say, God
cannot do anything unless men will allow it, God doesn't anything, unless it is done
He has to do it through men because Jesus gave all authority to men and if He wants to
do anything He will have to find someone he can work through.
Sounds familiar ?
God of the Bible is not like this.
He is absolutely sovereign and omnipotent:
Our God is in the heavens; He does whatever He pleases. Ps 115:2
...neither is He served by human hands, as though He needed anything... Acts 17:25
For the LORD Most High is to be feared, a great King over all the earth... God is
the King of all the earth ...God reigns over the nations... Ps 47:6,7
And all the inhabitants of the earth are accounted as nothing, but He does
according to His will in the host of heaven and among the inhabitants of earth; and no one
can ward off His hand or say to Him, `What hast Thou done?' Dan 4:35
Cease striving and know that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations, I will be
exalted in the earth. Ps 46:10
A Gospel of Works.
Through the Bible, we know that we are
made righteous only through the blood of Christ (Php 3:9),
Not by our works. Through guilt, condemnation, and accusation, these prophecies seek to
mislead us into a gospel of works instead.
Scriptures and concepts from the New Testament epistles are remarkably absent from
these prophets' messages. Their message is law, not grace.
They would like to have the authority of the Old Testament prophets (without the
accountability to be 100% accurate) and to put the rest of us back under law.
They have forsaken the New Testament message of salvation and righteousness through
faith, and turned to a system of law and works.
You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by law; you
have fallen from grace. Gal 5:4
These prophecies are
incompatible with the Bible.
They cannot both be true- a choice must be made.
What fellowship has light with darkness? 2 Cor 6:14
Make no mistake, though - there is enough
truth mixed in with the error in these prophecies to confuse any person who does not know
their Bible well, and the words are skillfully woven together. I personally do not
encourage any Christian to read them, the possibility for deception is too great.
Why are we Dissatisfied?
Friends, we need to ask ourselves what we
are looking for in new prophecies that is better than what God has already freely given
us? He has ''granted to us everything pertaining to life and godliness'' (2Pet 1:3). The
scriptures are all we need to ''be adequate, equipped for every good work'' (2Tim
What are we craving beyond the ''precious and magnificent promises'' He has given us in
His word? (2Pet 1:4) Are we not like the Israelites, bored with the manna God has provided
and demanding he provide for our own cravings for meat?
Could it be that deep down we crave the forbidden things of self. The enemy of
our souls knows the flesh and will try to find ways to trigger the rebellion into Gods
very elect, in a way that Gods people will not notice, because it will be done in the name
of Jesus, never the less in the name of Jesus or not, we will be lead asray through vain
unbiblical promises, the promise of posessions, wealth, power, devine health, position
(higher higher higher, the next level, victory around the corner, exitement, shouting,
laughing, miracles, signs, wonders, experiences.
Every religion on Earth can offer you these shallow promises. Go to "New Age
"and you are in for the experience. All these for the "godly consumers",
for self, from one thing into the other, thinking that we are spiritually growing, not
realizing that the good works we are destined to have will never come to completion.
For this is a rebellious people, false sons, sons who refuse to listen to the
instruction of the LORD; Who say... ''You must not prophesy to us what is right, speak to
us pleasant words, prophesy illusions. Get out of the way, turn aside from the path, let
us hear no more about the Holy One of Israel.'' Isa 30:9-11
Is it possible we want new prophecy because we do not want to accept what the Bible says
as the final word?
Are we tired of being rejected by this world system? (Jn 15:18-20).
Do we want to hear a message of earthly popularity, prosperity, power, glory, and
influence? (Dt 28:13).
Do we want to hear that the world is going to fall at our feet and acclaim us rather
than ''If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of
the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you'' (Jn 15:19) ?
Do we want to have our ''ears tickled... in accordance to our own desires''? (2 Tim
We say ''we don't want to put God in a box,'' but don't we really mean that WE don't
want to be put in a box by God- that box being the authority, limitations and final word
of the scriptures?
Beloved we are blessed already
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with
every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, just as He chose us in Him
before the foundation of the world... to the praise of the glory of His grace, which He
freely bestowed on us in the Beloved. In Him we have redemption through His blood, the
forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace, which He lavished
upon us. Eph 1:3-8
In Him we are complete ...in Him you have been made complete. Col 2:10
There is no need to be hungry for other things In Jn 6:35, ''Jesus said
to them, 'I am the bread of life; he who comes to Me shall not hunger.